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well. we never got the bigger the safe get ready because of the freedom. part it's time for show and silence a night's program last time we told you about a u.n. report highlighted the escalating violence in afghanistan however that report come for legally contradicting statements coming from u.s. military officials so we want to know who you think is giving us the real stats on

violence and death in afghanistan and u.n. or the u.s. so let's go to producer patrice and essentially to find out what you had to say. general betrays the military well they've been trying to tell us that we're gaining momentum against the taliban and that the surge has been successful fragile and reversible but success. nevertheless one of the ways they're trying to prove it but general john allen has recently told congress that violence in afghanistan is five percent lower compared to last ok well it sounds great but the u.n. said in a new report that violence is on the rise and civilian deaths are up twenty percent since who do you think is telling the truth while they did morris he believes neither most of the violence he said goes on reported that may be true to this year's time magazine he wrote an article that most about an a stance violence actually takes place in provinces and can go unreported and you have just he said he doesn't trust either side because both sides they have an

agenda that suits their needs and plenty is equally a skeptical he said oh yeah i believe right we're going to have they ever lie to us before well sometimes they can be lying but other times it's just a matter of how to patrol the numbers the u.s. and coalition forces can tell you that violence is down because so far this year only responsible for ten percent of civilian casualties the last year they were responsible for sixteen percent and the thing is the year it's only hostility and there are no signs that the airstrikes are going to slow down and no indication that the rising number of suicide and bombing attacks against civilians will decrease either well most of you could not bring yourself to trust either side in this question and a few you even lean towards trusting the u.n. i can only quote a line from the song crock by michael jackson someone is hiding the truth hold up. our thanks for giving us your input and here's our next question for you we just

told you about the consequences of wisconsin is anti-union bill that's going to affect prison inmates are filling in and working for free we're county workers jobs so we want to know what you think should prison inmates be allowed to replace public sector employees on to us on facebook twitter and you tube and knows your response just might make it on air. the sky. the light will come to. some asked you why are these singing. ladies and gentlemen tonight we have a glimmer of hope for you see it appears as if the u.s. has finally become outraged over an issue that's been quite contentious around the rest of the world sure google street view option is fun to look at when you're trying to find a new location but countries across the world been speaking out over the methods of the internet giant utilized to obtain those images see back in two thousand and ten it was discovered that the street view cars were obtaining the images were also

obtaining data of individuals through their wife my networks now several countries like the u.k. have already given google a slap on the wrist but after a group of people here in the u.s. created a combined lawsuit against the google or federal judge has now sided with the plaintiffs the decision by the silicon valley judge says that the internet giants knowingly installed software in their street view equipment which is a violation of the wiretapping at google's original argument was that they were going to do anything with that private data and basically they said that if anyone's delmar enough to have an unprotected router well then that information was fair game fair game excuse me anyways to be collected now the federal judge also said that google's argument doesn't hold up because any information even the flows through a non password enabled router is still protected the same way that cell phone conversations are protected so why is this a glimmer of hope for starters it means that anybody who uses an unprotected browser at any point in time like say in a coffee shop you're still granted the right of privacy for those that for that

data and this ruling is also significant because when the u.s. originally started looking into this sketchy about it but all investigators they decided to drop the investigation right the f.t.c. basically said hey looks like google's going to clean up their own less so we're just going to back out so i am relieved to learn that americans didn't rely on the government's half assed investigation into google and the. took it upon themselves to make sure the major corporation didn't get away with now having personal data i think that everybody knows the google has a knack for pushing their limits on every front getting right up to that creepy line as eric schmidt would say and other paying for it with all these probes and investigations that are putting a magnifying glass on the search engine and this judge's decision is by no means going to be the downfall of the great cooper but i do think that rulings like this are at least going to keep the company from taking their efforts too far a true glimmer of hope. and now yesterday we told you about a new challenge to the protect ip act a group of nine eleven festers has signed in science

a letter to congress opposing the legislation saying that it not only amounts to internet censorship that's barred by the first amendment but also allies the u.s. oppressive regimes and legislation is for now that stalled in congress anything to refresher course it's the law that would allow the government to essentially blacklist websites that they deem to be engaging in infringing activities as the letter calls it it's the internet death penalty and sold as a piece of copyright in force mint and has the heavy backing of hollywood but is it unconstitutional and could this letter help stop the bill in its tracks joining me to discuss it is one of these law professors mark levelly from stanford law school mark thanks so much for joining us tonight now there are ninety professors that you've got to sign this letter that makes me feel like you guys are really serious about this because it must not be an easy task to get so many people together to sign a letter like this to send it to congress does that show just how concerned you are . it's true we're up to one hundred professors as of today and getting law

professors to agree to anything is that her. liberals and conservatives libertarians and statists all signed on to that is because it's it's really quite disturbing. what it is the congressman proposing to do here now can you outline for us i guess some of the largest problems that you see the politicization. sure well first and foremost we're giving the government the power to break the internet specifically to break the domain name addressing system and the internet works because if i type in microsoft dot com i can const because it'll go to microsoft that will be true anymore no every internet service provider will have to consult a list of sites they are barred from linking to search engines will have to do the same thing and credit card providers and advertisers won't be able to do business with sites that are determined to be infringing copyright wherever they are in the

world back to the i happen to be mentioned wherever they are in the world why is it that congress thinks that there allows you just legislate under our copyright laws for websites all over the world that seems a little odd to me. they had a problem the copyright owners face is on the internet there's not really much of a national boundary and so a website that exists anywhere in the world is just as accessible to the united states now other countries in the world have dealt with this. issue by trying to cut off access to foreign sites or cut off access to information in the game objectionable china is on the list iran is on the list mubarak's egypt regime was on the list. the proposal here i guess would put the united states on the list to seeing we don't want things from outside our borders to be accessible to our citizens if we've determined that they violate

a principle that we object to that isn't a help ocracy they're just a little too much to handle considering that our government is supposedly championing the thing tire idea internet access our freedom of the internet for everybody to actually working with people within different countries q subverts some of those regimes that you mentioned yes i know i know it's one of my real concerns with this act is it makes it impossible for the state department to go out with a straight face and fight for internet freedom in repressive regimes around the world if those countries can turn around and say well wait a minute when you find something that you find offensive copyright infringement you not only allow people to sue for infringement but you block the website entirely the copyright owners have plenty of tools to deal with the problem of infringement and infringement is a problem on the internet. controlling the internet breaking the internet doesn't

seem to me a wise addition to the norm well if they have to laws then why is it that they spend it so much money and i think that we can say when we say they hollywood essentially why they spend so much money millions of dollars lobbying congress to pass this type of legislation. well you know the problem that the content owners face is there's a lot of infringement out there and it's distributed so they'll sue a website and they'll bring it down in another website will take its place they'd like to be able to go to the source if i can just sort of get the central switch that controls the internet and then pull the plug. if i can go to google and you're not allowed to the point to any of these web sites they could kill off of a bunch of infringement in one fell swoop the problem is they kill off a bunch of non infringing sites and a bunch of innovation along with it now forth the idea of anybody having a actual slate which by the way has been before in congress for the internet is very scary but tell me if you agree with the critique is this is something that

i've heard before is that maybe congress. should share their respected individuals they are elected they just aren't capable with legislating on somebody who's nation is maybe they're a little bit to advantage for them a little too technical for them should they really be the ones making the decisions well you know it's a it is a problem. as always although i think there are a number of smart people in congress the staffers and the congress people part of the problem we've had is they've been hearing from only one side in this debate. and i think this letter there's a letter by a group of internet technology experts another letter by venture capitalists i hope is going to educate. my other worry i guess is you know if you're in congress. the instinct is well there's a problem we've got to do something about it and sometimes the right thing to do is nothing and i think that's the case here. that's so funny because you know i wish

that they would do something about so many of the other problems that we're facing right now if you want to talk about unemployment or the economy but they're focusing on the protect i.p.x. real quick if you heard anything back from any responses to the letter. oh so we've gotten a little bit of response on my sense is that this is the end until quite recently on a fast track in congress we're expecting to see it introduced in the house very quickly ron wyden the senator from oregon has put a hold on the bill in the senate and i think if there are a few courageous people in congress who will stand up to where we can remember this from happening our michael thanks so much for joining us tonight and i guess you're getting more signatories every day and good luck with that thank you. just ahead tonight a governor's comments about abortion last and. then stick around for happy hour the women who are nursing need a milk truck and last reports to cash reports say that to catch a predator chris hansen is worried that his naked flexing those lights in iraq

stick around for some thought. into it only when there was a mechanism to do the work to bring justice and accountability. i have every right to know what my government should do if you want to know why i paid taxes. but i would characterize obama as a charismatic. american exceptional that's. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so sleek you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else here so you saw the part of it and realized everything is ok. i'm sorry there's a big. let's

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for side rule side award and tonight we're giving answer louisiana governor bobby jindal here on wednesday the republican governor signed house bill six three six into law and it requires women to be informed of their specific legal rights and options before they undergo an abortion procedure and the measure is not of course of course in providers to post signs of a still it is saying that it's illegal to coerce a woman into an abortion and letting them know about child support that a father must pay which state agencies could help during a pregnancy and at some adoptive parents are willing to pay for medical cost base closing of the move by republicans who claim to be all about smaller government again trying to legislate

a woman's uterus but the thing that there really gets me here is that bobby jindal has been rumored to have white house aspirations so this new abortion bill might be just great for him right in fact a comment he made of the bill signing is really going to weight him some support in the pro-life crowd he said quote. when officers arrest criminals today they're read their rights so stop stop for just a second he's really not stupid have to compare women who have an abortion to criminals as well looks like unfortunately he is governor jindal went on to say now if we're giving criminals their basic rights and they have to be informed of those rights but it seems to me only common sense we would have to do the same thing for women before they make a choice about whether to get an abortion you know i'm not sure the governor has any common sense on this issue because a free report for starters rule of the one nine hundred seventy three roe v wade case that abortion was illegal in the u.s. so governor you can just compare a painful and a personal decision that a woman makes about her own body to a criminal act that's just offensive but gentle of his buddies seem to have

absolutely no problem trying to restrict freedom that seems to be a trend in louisiana in fact that dates back centuries you might recall back in april we brought you a report on how new orleans police and prosecutors still use nineteenth century laws to prosecute the what they're called crimes against nature and they often deal with sex acts between two consenting adults new orleans uses those laws to target prostitutes and some of the laws on the book make oral or anal sex punishable by twenty years in jail so in order to avoid jail time a city just finds of her thousands of dollars now it's a money making revolve based on an old law written when morals and society were much much different that law was actually overturned in the last few days so what is governor bobby jindal and his republican friends do now all they do is go after abortion rights something they also object to morally and that's why a louisiana governor bobby jindal is tonight still time later.

ok it's thursday and it's time for happy hour joining me for this evening as our two pretty surge. and jim hansen retired special operations master sergeant and military blogger at black net thanks for joining me guys. i've been story feeling you're going to like this one jimbo for some reason i'm going to show you a new story of a woman in pittsburgh that essentially who wants to this is these are her words to support mothers who are harassed for nursing in public here's her idea on how to change that. it would never go on top of the rest is going to be a flashing red light it's going to come flashing in we zoom in and cart the truck close followers on twitter and facebook which then we're going to pour chairs out under the sidewalk we're going to layer we're going to take over the area that we park they want to make a blue truck what do you think. would you be down with the parking in front of the

restaurant and all these women coming up in just a bit about your records one hundred percent so i don't see how this could be anywhere anytime anyplace anywhere a job yeah i didn't pay taxes for that right so i must say i was confused when i read the story initially i thought that they were going to you know take the women away into the truck because you know there's a particularly out and proud and i have to say this is are going to be hit. i mean is this is this is really going to be like yes this is. just like i have three eighty well the thing is that we project her idea was you know ok not so bad we showed you her boob it looks a little bit too much like an ice cream hunky dorey so we came up with our own version of what. ok. i'm really glad it went well you know i am really glad i was losing my mind because i want to you can sure are

slashing on the screen there like no you need therapy. in front of me. plenty of common thought about would i think you know nipple rings and all really take the cake for them to go with the score on that one. ok let's move on to. this actually is any more appropriate. many of you probably have watched to catch a predator it's a fun show the whole family can enjoy let me give you a few clips to remind you of who the host is of this show. huge. pressure storm on the jersey shore to search for yesterday children over the internet. were. just. so chris hansen that was the good guys because you know we were pervert shows up at

a little girl's house who was pretend usually somebody pretending to be like a thirteen year old girl and he's there to get some action and then chris hansen walks out and catches them turns out chris hansen a was caught cheating on his wife and now chris hansen is worried that some very steamy and receive photos that might actually come out on the internet wreak we should say i feel like this story says really really unconfirmed it's like a source who knows him says he's concerned so i just think you should kind of learn that out there i was out first of all like to say no relation second i'd like to see the rumor i heard is there's going to be see show with him and anthony weiner called joke talk. out of a job now it's you who is on the front but i mean it's a little ironic come on chris bad thing to catch a predator and sure this woman that he's you know sexting and having an affair with and stuff she may not be an underage girl but that we know that we have you know that you know. i mean people are getting really upset on twitter when we point this

out last week and thought it was so funny and they were like well she's not under age she's not doing anything illegal i mean some sense of humor yeah exactly it's just funny you're just carrying it so you're not always this personal life falling to pieces for our own enjoyment i could want you for the t.v. for someone jumps out there saying chris you're sending pictures. i would be willing incidentally i'm available i mean i'd like any other. ok so this is a story that we actually talked about earlier in the week before it had gotten even more intense and it was about news of the world a murdoch owned newspaper in the u.k. . it turns out that this young girl who was missing they had actually cell phone and were racing voice mails deleting messages excuse me which made the family think that she might be alive and it turns out later that she was murdered now the scandals expanded turns out they did it to obviously we already knew they did it to celebrities now it turns out they also did it to the families of soldiers from

afghanistan from iraq and now murdoch's papers are going to pay take a look. that's scandal brought down the paper itself it is surprising turn media mogul rupert murdoch owner of the paper ordered it to shut down this sunday will be the last edition now this is the same who owns news corp their hands oh please tell us here is rupert and i didn't i didn't get a little profile. it's kind of incredible though is that a lot of people today say you know twitter and blogs essentially shut this paper down because everybody was freaking out about it so much and going on about how wrong it was yeah i mean i was surprised i didn't know that rupert murdoch had a conscience so i didn't know that he would actually take this step i mean it's actually just gusting they were also allegedly listening to the e-mails of people who died in the london bombing i mean just like there was no lines there it was anyone was fair game i think it. does have

a conscience because when we spoke about this on tuesday we were saying that well they're doing this maybe because they're trying to keep up with demand and people want these like you they just have this insatiable appetite there's of these stories and now he actually has to shut it down because obviously it's not really profitable for him anymore can we just go with no great loss i mean can we get our stories about six it'd be aliens invasion that kind of stuff somewhere else i think there are plenty of other outlets i got to say i've never read the news of the world but maybe someone out there will miss it but you know i think that if nobody's doing anything then john turned in for like one hundred something years. ok let's move on to something else. just kind of weird because whoever elizabeth smart it was this part was of course the young girl who was abducted and years later was found and earlier this year her abductor was being sentenced and she was very calm very peaceful take

a look at what she looks like now when it comes down to it rather what i think it matters what the church thinks. i hope and pray that right. ok quick sorry correction apparently she was gone for about six months for some reason in my mind it was longer than but now she's going to be on good morning america and nightline and she's going to be the new of protection correspondent what do you think i'm just waiting to see who cracks the first joke about the girl that was kidnapped. i just like this you know if anybody deserves to get paid for it you know she did nothing wrong she was blameless in the situation is getting paid for and as a lot of shows units correspondent for torture internet pictures of people who are mine not to support her. campaign as a special correspondent bravo i mean some people did bring up some interesting questions you know other than the fact that she herself has been abducted what credentials does she have to be on television and doesn't have any but then again

most people i kind of. see is don't anymore i mean if you look at e.s.p.n. happiness you know most people don't care and i don't think you need credentials and i think this is what you need to be on television let us just show you the woman that we spoke about yesterday. let me just. bring tonight. unfortunately that woman is who people love to watch on television elizabeth smart just seems so sweet and innocent to me we're going to choose between nancy grace elizabeth smart i'll take some elizabeth smart and nancy grace can burn and yeah yeah the old right so if she does have a little more of that outgoing or as. i got to wrap it up people love her for some reason thanks for joining you guys that's a very nice show thanks for tuning in and make sure he's back tomorrow lawrence wilkerson is iraq on the program to talk about the latest foreign policy developments in the meantime don't forget to keep

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